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Old 04-26-2004, 13:49
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Originally Posted by dcow
This board is entirely about hacking in the sense of your second paragraph. Hacking is to know the machine and its software to such an extent that you can give the machine capabilities beyond the mundane, or that your skills are such that you can resolve problems that others cannot completely understand.

BTW, thanks for the links. Incidentally, I started on the software side of things by programming self test diagnotics into ROM for circuit cards. All this was done in assembly of course, just not Intel assembly. And of course there was no such thing as Windows. So while the learning curve is long (including the Win32 API) I do at least have the basics.

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The day i wrote that i had been up for 48 hours straight and i where generally a little pissed off about some things. Anyhow.. I know what this board is about. However, learning assembly just because you want to hack/reverse engineer is usually not a good starting point.

In my experience people who start in that direction doesnt come very far in the end of things. I started out with Basic and then Visual Basic before i turned to Assembly. The reason i started was because the basic language was to simplistic and i didnt like C either. Now ive been programming in Assembly for 3 years and my love for this language grows each day.

Assembly isnt really that hard to learn if you got the right head for it. But that depends on whats inside it. I wish you good luck in the world of assembly. Maybe you'll need it maybe you wont.

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Old 04-27-2004, 04:33
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Thanks Nulli,

things are going along with assy. I registered over at masm forum which looked like a good place. I'm using HLA and Ollydebug to get started. What I want to do is to use Kaspersky's book on Hacker Dissassembling to make the link to HLL's With practice and knowledge of Win32 API I should be able to get along pretty well in figuring out how Win and IE interact to run Ora Fin Apps which is my end goal.

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