ASM coding, do you use a special program, or can you use C for asm-coding instead

I guess knowing/recognising assembly syntax and how it works is quite important in RE. Otherwise, you probably will be hunting to find possible breakpoints in the deadlisting blindly. Can be quite painful, though experience do play a part in the process too, no doubt about it.

I just printed out some tutorials by Iczelion. Eager to learn more about MASM and Win32 Programming, since I came from a Unix/Linux background.

For ASM you can use:

Start>run>'debug.exe'


That's for raw ASM

if you want more than just a syntax highlighter, use masm + some resource editor + RadASM (h++p://radasm.visualassembler.com/) (think vb + asm).

Originally Posted by amnesia

I guess knowing/recognising assembly syntax and how it works is quite important in RE. Otherwise, you probably will be hunting to find possible breakpoints in the deadlisting blindly. Can be quite painful, though experience do play a part in the process too, no doubt about it.

I just printed out some tutorials by Iczelion. Eager to learn more about MASM and Win32 Programming, since I came from a Unix/Linux background.

Yes one thing at time is better, and I can only suggest that it is better to read 35 of Iczelions tuts on how it asm and win32 actualy works than to read tones of "crack" tots on how to crack this and that... Then again it is only my opinion and yours free will

If you are only doing fragments, inlining with _asm is the easiest. For anything larger, a dedicated ASM is probably desired.

I recomend looking into RadASM or Asm Studio if you are going to write anything complex and are new to ASM. Coupled with the latest MASM and tutorials and online help, these seem to offer the equiv functionality of a "Visual Studio for ASM".

For patching, though, you can just use Olly and save the EXE. You can even use labels, so for anything less than 30 lines, it can be quite fast. No need to link, no need for a hex editor, or anything.

Originally Posted by McS2oo4

Yes one thing at time is better, and I can only suggest that it is better to read 35 of Iczelions tuts on how it asm and win32 actualy works than to read tones of "crack" tots on how to crack this and that... Then again it is only my opinion and yours free will

I take your suggestion and advice very seriously. Thanks!

And after reading Iczelion tuts, learn how to create device drivers,
and then you will have absolute control of your machine because
you will learn the power of ring zero programming.

I use MASM and KMD Kit to create my progs.
Device driver programming in MASM:
hxxp://www.freewebs.com/four-f/

Good luck

I'd recommend RADAsm, the best editor for assembly. It supports all kind of projects and also all asemblers out there (masm,tasm,nasm,fasm,goasm etc...) Highly recommended.

Whoops, I forgot the link http://radasm.visualassembler.com/