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Old 01-03-2005, 06:01
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Aaron does not need to and did not discuss the reasons for making the Rules as he did, but I can offer a good assumption as to why. We have many, many, many new registered users who thought, incorrectly, that they could immediately post a bunch of posts and obtain either attachment download and/or FTP download privileges by simply posting a bunch of short, meaningless messages of the "Thank You" type or, often, just pure random typing of letters.

The limitations on newer users require that they demonstrate some "patience" and "determination" to achive certain "privileges." Those who are here only to leech rarely have such "patience" and their "determination" is usually directed at trying to "circumvent" the Rules, rather than follow them. This is something somewhat inherent in Reverse Engineers but 'these" people care only about themselves and what "they" want.

It there were not so many people interested in hammering the Forum and FTP just to get stuff they probably do not have any idea how to use, such restrictions might not be necessary.

You may have noticed that we currently have about 2600 members (not Members). Over 600 of them have joined within the last few days and you may be suprised that the database containes more than 24,000 "users" who have registered at one time or another, most of them just to get the FTP download password, back in the days when almost no one could get on the FTP because so many were hammering it.

So I agree that it is more difficult for the new user to get things done, but that will also enhance the chances that those who do "stick it out" will be of more use and contribution to the Forum over the long run.

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Old 01-03-2005, 06:20
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Aaron does not need to and did not discuss the reasons for making the Rules as he did, but I can offer a good assumption as to why.
first of all, i just want to say these sentences shouldn't look like i want to start some discussion. i see no words that points on a "discussion". first sentence was just a short introduction, second one an example and the third and fourth why i posted: the questions why but you explained it very well. i didn't think about the FTP because i personally doesn't use it very often. two times a month or less. thanks for your effort JMI.

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Old 01-03-2005, 06:53
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May I suggest the term "Newbie" for the second class may be confused with "newbie" ?

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Old 01-03-2005, 07:03
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A point. Maybe Aaron will reconsider and find the following less subject to misinterpretation. That's up to him. I don't really think those in the "Newbie" usergroup will confuse their "usergroup" with a general reversing "newbie" because the "other" categories are related only to "post count" and not an evaluation of the quality of the Posts, themselves. But any implication might be avoided if he wanted to use the following, instead:


"Registered"

"New Member"

"Trial Member"

"Member"

"VIP"

But, again, that is his choice to make.

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Old 01-03-2005, 07:58
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Perhaps "Novice" should be nice too ?

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Old 01-03-2005, 10:01
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"Novice" means the same thing as "Newbie".

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I find the new rules too much restrictive but very good and effective for this "dark age". Aaron and JMI are right...lots of people are only singing up to grab the ftp password and download even their asses if they were on the ftp. So even if they are too much restrictive I think that they will to their job for a while at least. I experimented myself in old times the ftp beeing inaccessible for "too many users".

The only thing i find without any sense(unless pointed to some good reasons) is the password change policy every 30 days. Personallly i switched on the auto-reminder feature so i don't even have to type it. It's a unuseful thing to type every time the password...also because i don't know others, but mine is 14 chars long...so not easily guessable. But I understand that maybe Aaron that is behind the administration of this board may have reasons that are not clear to me. Any Words?
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