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Old 04-14-2006, 03:12
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why do you all cry? syser looks far more interesting now, you can load and unload it, its ring0, too bad no config yet, define of keys, and any plugins or tools like iceext. all what was going with softice last time its was making it worse and striped from commands that were in earlier version. i started using it in 1997 and since 10 years they havent added load or save memory. and paying for it 4000$ is just crime
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:52
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Maybe "Syser" is now a good debugger (I don't really like it for various reasons), but as soon as Windows Vista comes out, it will have the same fate as SoftICE: It will be useless since only the Microsoft debugger can load unsigned drivers, just like MarkusO pointed out above.

And you have to understand what SoftICE is designed to be. It is not a cracking tool, it is a professional debugger. Loading and saving memory is nothing which an application of this kind needs to able to do, since the typical user working with SoftICE is a programmer who has the source code of his own application. Therefore he can always change his source to read/write some memory.
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Old 04-14-2006, 08:51
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Perhaps SoftICE will be continued by the sceen.

The general concensus is that its developer won't continue it, but I would guess that people who love it will find a way to modify the final release as they need to continue its use on Vista+

I am not a fan of Kernel Mode Debuggers, running Ring0 for any purpose don't appeal to me, most of what I need I find in Ring3.

While I'm a fan of OllyDBG I believe it too has come to an end, I haven't heard anything about any new releases, the site hasn't been updated in nearly a year.

Thats my two cents, peace
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